hello friends. thanks for thinking and praying of me. here's my recollection of my chat with the professor today.
well first off, he was half hour late. he forgot and was in the teacher lounge. i had to hunt him down so i didn't waste my morning.
but after i finally found him and we sat down he said, "so you have questions for me?"
to be honest i had already asked him some questions the class before [wednesday]. here they were [this is like a flashback so bear with me]
WEDNESDAY
he explained to the class this "amazing evolutionary discovery" whose name was Ardipithecus ramidus or "Ardi". he told the class that Ardi had an apposable thumb on her foot like an ape, but walked upright like a human. he then explained how through natural selection had weeded out this species over time. he then opened up for questions.
of course i raised my hand. i said "i don't understand, if Ardi could both walk upright and swing from trees, why did she get weeded out in natural selection. i mean, doesn't that seem like she had the best of both worlds? wouldn't these genes remain intact rather than choose one setting over the other?"
know what he said? he said, "i agree with you. i don't know. any more questions?"
so i raised my hand again. i said, "in the documentary the archaeologist who found her stated that he himself was surprised that they were able to piece her together. he said that some of her bones were so crushed it was simply luck that they were able to piece the puzzle back together." i then asked, "if Ardi's bones were so crushed that it took luck to piece them together, then how do we know they pieced them together accurately?"
know what he said? he said, "i'm not and anatomologist, i don't know. any other questions?"
so i raise my hand again and said, "the archaeologist also said that he thought to himself when they found the hip and foot bones 'maybe these two things are part of the same skeleton'. how did the archaeologists know the two pieces were to the same thing?"
know what he said? he said, "again i'm no archaeologist. i don't know. any other questions?"
so i raised my hand again and said, "aren't fossils made from from rapid sediment depositing on a living organism and thus preserving it for a long time? how can Ardi have died and been laying on the ground when she fossilized like the documentary said?"
know what he said? he said, "i don't know. any other questions?"
i raised my hand again and asked if a monopoly in an industry was detrimental to society. he said yes.
i was going to tell him today that the scientific community was a monopoly of evolutionists, but never had the chance.
also another questioned i should've asked but didn't cause i didn't think of it at the moment would've been "are these fossils available for other scientists to do research on them" because most times, they close these fossils off to society so that society has to accept what they say as truth.
TODAY
so he made the statement about questions to me and before i could answer he starts going into this long rant about how science and faith cannot mix. he claims that the Pharisees wrote the Bible [they didn't, they possibly made copies, but never autographs]. i asked him to find me contradictions in Scripture. he then started explaining to simpleton me how languages change and how we don't have the same Bible as it was in the original languages. [what i should've said at this point was "oh so you mean that it wasn't perfect in the original languages, but somehow there aren't any notable contradictions in Scripture today? but i didn't. didn't have time.]
he also claims that evolution is happening currently and we can observe it, even though he also admits that species aren't changing into anything new. basically he's talking about micro evolution which no one argues because it's observable. so nothing new there.
i then made a statement or two about entropy, which is a scientific law that states everything is moving from a state of order to disorder, from good to bad. i asked that isn't evolution in contradiction with scientific LAW if things evolve from less complex to more and more complex? he said it seems to, but that doesn't mean that it isn't science and that it's not valid.
WHAT??? he's got more contradictions in that statement that politicians in the senate! i just stared at him.
he also went into some really weird directions like "Pontias Pilate's courtyard wasn't big enough to hold a large crowd" and weird stuff like that. basically stuff that didn't really have anything to do with anything.
he then mentioned that the Creationists say that men rode dinosaurs, and that those people talk flinstones not science. i said that i'm pretty sure they found dinosaur fossils and human fossils in the same layer of earth. he told me that i'm wrong. that i need to check my sources.
class was going to start, so i pulled out the movie Expelled by Ben Stein. i explained to him how the movies challenged evolutionary thinking with the Intelligent Design concept.
he refused to take the movie because he "doesn't like Stein's political views"
unbelievable right? i thought he was kidding so i handed it in his direction again. yeah he wasn't kidding, he didn't take it. i just stared at him, looked at the class, laughed in disbelief, and started to sit back down.
he told me he liked the conversation. he wants to have another one.
oh gosh. he basically said "yeah evolution defies scientific law, but it still is science."
i'm still trying to figure out in what setting we're going to talk again. hopefully in a class setting so all may see that he really doesn't have many pieces together [kinda like Ardi].
by the way a archaeologist just told me that the ending "pithecus" means "ape" in Latin.
i just thought that was kinda funny/ironic.
if you guys have any info for me that i can use, let me know, leave a comment or shoot me an email at: shrankaplooza@gmail.com
thanks all!!!!!
in Christ
Jesse
Hey jesse it's rachel wright.
ReplyDeleteSo you've finally joined the blogging world! And you're taking a stand. I respect that. I really do.
It looks like this prof is just blocking you. He's doing what most of the world does, which is refusing to accept anyone else's point of view. It messes with their security. They believe what they want to and there is no way that anyone else could be right. You remember the Black Knight scene from Monty Python and the holy grail? It's like that...you chop all their arms off and they deny it. It's incredibly frustrating, but it's the way things go. They'll only listen when God touches their hearts. I'll pray that your talks keep going well.
Keep it up.